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  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)
  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)
  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)
  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)
  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)
  • System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)

System 8 THX Ultra 2 "Concert 5.1" (2010)

Successor to the legendary Theater 8 THX Ultra 2: better, smaller, neater...
The world's smallest THX Ultra 2 certified home cinema set
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Highlights

Key advantages at a glance
  • The world's smallest THX Ultra 2 certified home cinema set
  • Glossy black design, perfect sound maximally compressed
  • Identical front speakers, flat membranes, 3 way D'Appolito configuration
  • Concert version includes five satellites
  • 500 watt RMS subwoofer with THX Ultra 2 certificate on 300 mm bass driver
  • Recommended for spaces up to 100 sqm.
In developing the System 8 THX Ultra 2, Teufel has attained two extremely ambitious aims, namely to outperform the legendary acoustics of the Theater 8 speaker set and to slash the casing dimensions. In fact, to achieve the impossible. In actual fact...

Better, smaller, neater
After years of laboratory trials, countless prototyping cycles, endless measuring and extensive licensing procedures, it is finished: the System 8 THX Ultra 2 - worthy successor to the Theater 8 Ultra 2. Only better, smaller and neater!

Subwoofer sensation
The most striking advance is the improvement of the subwoofer. Despite a two-thirds reduction (!) in the size of its casing, the System 8 bass speaker is the only subwoofer in the world to meet the exacting THX Ultra 2 standards with just one high-performance bass driver. The S 8000 SW is impressive proof of the supreme expertise of Teufel, having been in the business of building customised bass speakers for over 20 years.

The bass
A lengthy development process resulted in the extra-long stroke woofer with magnetic shielding which is primarily responsible for the incredible performance of the S 8000 SW (THX requirement!). The low distortion factor and extreme efficiency mean that a sine wave output of 500 watts can generate the same levels free of distortion (e.g. 114 dB at 40 Hz) where much higher amplifier outputs used to be required.

Flat diaphragm
Optimised for wall mounting, the S 800 FCR front speakers boast a modern flat diaphragm chassis in the bass and mid-range. The advantages of this include reduced distortion, minimised diffraction effects and ultra-low mid-range and treble fade, all combined with the minimal interference of the virtually reflection-free grid. It may be 40% smaller than its predecessor but it boasts improved sound quality - thanks to state-of-the-art chassis technologies, computer-aided Klippel optimisation techniques, and intensive tuning work by our engineers.

Dipole speakers
The three-way speakers have a 130 mm wall-mounted woofer which takes care of the fundamentals, while a 100 mm mid-range driver and a 25 mm dome on each side achieve front and rear dipole sound transmission. The sound transmitted in the direction of the listener diminishes automatically; only the sound reflected off the walls is heard. As a result, the audience has the acoustic perspective of a completely open soundscape.

THX Ultra 2 - no sacrifice on the home furnishing front
In unveiling its System 8 THX Ultra 2, Teufel reveals the first set of speakers with full high-end credentials which doesn’t dominate your living room but blends harmoniously into its surroundings. Top-spec home cinema can be elegant – with the System 8 THX Ultra 2.

THX Ultra 2 for your room
With the System 8 THX Ultra 2 Teufel presents the absolute high end in THX Ultra 2 sound - a set that doesn't dominate but provides absolute dream sound. Elegant form with top home cinema atmosphere - the System 8 THX ULtra 2.

Included components

  • Satellite Speaker S 800 FCR THX Ultra 2 (2010)
  • Subwoofer S 8000 SW THX Ultra 2 (2010)

Specifications

Active Subwoofer S 8000 SW THX Ultra 2 (2010)
Active Subwoofer S 8000 SW THX Ultra 2 (2010)
We gave the THX engineers a bit of a shock with the S 8000 SW: they'd never seen another manufacturer meet their stringent THX Ultra 2 standards using a single 300 mm chassis and an enclosure this small (80 litres). Teufel pulled it off: a level of 114 dB at 40 Hz with a linearity of +- 1 dB.

This subwoofer is an absolute triumph of Teufel's engineering expertise, painstakingly gathered over twenty years of building specialised deep bass woofers.

The unbelievable performance of the S 8000 SW can be attributed to a bass driver developed over many steps and featuring an extremely long throw with THX Ultra 2-required magnetic screening.

A very low level of harmonic distortion and extreme efficiency contribute to high levels being rendered distortion-free at 500 watts of RMS output. In the past, a significantly higher level of amplification would have been required. And there's a side effect: you'll save on your electricity bill.

The Teufel-developed DPU reflex system with bass reflex openings on the back virtually eliminates interference even at high volumes. A remote control makes adjusting the subwoofer to match any sized space easy – the system can handle up to 100 square metres.
Active Subwoofer S 8000 SW THX Ultra 2 (2010)
Speaker
Enclosure type bassreflex
Magnetic shielding Yes
Connections
Cinch input 2
High Level loudspeaker inputs 2
Electronics
Lowest frequency (-3 dB) 25 Hz
Input gain adjustment yes
Phase control 0 / 180 degrees
Remote control Yes
Power output capacity sinus (RMS) Bass 500 W
Dimensions
Depth 54.80 cm
Width 36.00 cm
Height 70.00 cm
Weight 41.70 kg
Satellite Speaker S 800 FCR (2010)
Satellite Speaker S 800 FCR (2010)
These front loudspeakers for System 8 THX Ultra 2 are completely redeveloped and a bit of an enigma: they're both smaller and better.

Even though they're 40% more compact than their predecessor, our engineers squeezed an even higher degree of sound quality out of them thanks to modern chassis technology, computer-supported Klippel optimization and extensive tuning.

The S 800 FCR THX Ultra 2 front loudspeakers employ modern flat-diaphragm chassis in the bass- and mid-tone ranges. During high tones a 25 mm fabric-dome tweeter comes into play. The tweeter can be turned up to the extremely high volume required by THX Ultra 2 and nevertheless deliver very detailed sound...
These three-way loudspeakers are optimized to be set up near a wall, but can also be placed freely within a space. A removable dust cover is shipped with the speakers to protect their valuable drivers.

The cover can be mounted and dismounted without the use of screws because screws could negatively influence sound quality. And that's not how we do things...
Satellite Speaker S 800 FCR (2010)
Speaker
Acoustic principle 3-Way-System
Enclosure type Closed
Continuous power handling (IEC - Long Term) 150 Watt
Peak power capacity (IEC - Short Term) 200 Watt
Minimum amplifier output power recommended 50 Watt
Impedance 4 Ohm
Tweeter (number per enclosure) 1
Tweeter (diameter) 25.00 mm
Tweeter (material) fabric
Bass/Midrange driver (number per enclosure) 1
Bass/Midrange driver (diameter) 80.00 mm
Bass/Midrange driver (material) composit flat honeycomb membranes
Woofer (number per enclosure) 2
Woofer (diameter) 130.00 mm
Woofer (material) composit flat honeycomb membranes
Wall mounting brackets Yes
Magnetic shielding Yes
Terminal clamps CE-compliant Teufel connector panel with gold-plated terminal screws
Dimensions
Depth 19.00 cm
Width 45.80 cm
Height 24.90 cm
Weight 8.50 kg

Downloads & support

Help regarding this product
Can I order the Teufel speakers in different colours than those offered?
To realise the very reasonable sales prices usual for Teufel, it is not possible to offer the speakers in a multitude of housing designs.

This circumstance would drive up the production and storage costs, which would result in a significantly more expensive sales price.

A paint shop in your vicinity will surely be able to repaint the speaker housing to your preferred colour without loss of warranty - after expiry of the eight-week right of return.
Which speaker cables does Teufel recommend?
For smaller sets up to Theater 1, we recommend using the 2.5 mm² Teufel speaker cable for optimal sound quality if the required length does not exceed 15 metres.

For Theater 2 and larger systems, we recommend the Teufel cable with 4 mm² cross-section for the front/centre speakers, and the 2.5 mm² cable up to a length of 15 metres for the effect speakers.

Choose a higher cross-section for even greater lengths.
Is it possible to combine speaker cables with different cross-sections?
To supplement missing cable lengths you can use speaker cables of differing thicknesses without acoustical differences - provided there are no extreme differences in the cross-sections.
Should I rather choose a fully active or a partially active speaker set?
It is compulsory to connect partially active systems to an AV Receiver. This supplies the five to seven satellite speakers with the necessary power. Only the subwoofer works additionally with its own amplifier. The investment in a new system is higher because of the AV Receiver, but the solution is also much more flexible. After all, you can connect several signal sources, such as a TV, satellite receiver, PC, game console and MP3 player to an AV Receiver at the same time.

Fully active set do not necessarily need an AV Receiver. The five to seven satellite speakers here are supplied with power by the amplifiers which are installed in the subwoofer in addition to the subwoofer power amplifier. This saves you the costs of a receiver, but it is usually only possible to connect one source to our fully active subwoofer.

Exceptions here are the Concept E2, the Concept E Magnum Digital, the Motiv 5 Digital, the Concept F, the LT2+R and the Concept S+R.

Naturally you can also equip the fully active systems with an AV Receiver at a later point. The connection is then equal to the partially active sets.
Can I set up the set in a different way to that described?
The recommended set-up information below represents the best possible arrangement for perfect multichannel playback in your home. Your available space, your partner or your furniture may not always allow you to arrange the speakers in the ideal manner. Try to meet as many of the requirements as possible.

Modern AV Receivers offer numerous options for compensating electronically for any compromises in the set up. Generally speaking, the following rule always applies: you can always use our recommendations as a basis for experimenting with what works best for you, acoustically and optically. Let your ears (and eyes) decide!
Why don't the THX Select and THX Ultra 2 have five identical speakers?
A cinema uses completely different surround and front speakers, as they must fulfill completely different tasks.

The front speakers guarantee clear voice reproduction and very good positioning that harmonises with the picture.

The surround speakers, on the other hand, generate a diffuse and non-traceable sound field that literally surrounds the viewers and enables the illusion of a helicopter flying over the audience, for example. If you want to set up a 5.1 home cinema system with conventional speakers, then five identical speakers plus a subwoofer are the minimum equipment.

THX speaker systems, however, are specifically designed for multi-channel playback. That is why THX front speakers and THX dipole surround speakers offer the best requirements for perfect sound playback from a psychoacoustic view.

Despite the very compact dimensions of all utilised speakers, the THX subwoofer provides a very dynamic and powerful bass playback.
Does it make sense to connect THX Ultra 2 speakers to a THX Select amplifier?
Since the requirements for THX Select devices regarding cut-off frequency, THX switches and speaker control are comparable, a THX Ultra 2 speaker system can indeed be combined with a THX select receiver.

The main difference to the THX Ultra 2 devices is their higher performance which is only necessary for an approximate room size upwards of 50 m².
How is THX Ultra 2 specified?
THX Ultra 2 is the first THX standard that was completely developed for digital home cinema sound standards.

THX Ultra (1) was still based on the "original" Home THX, which was already used in high-quality AV amplifiers/receivers during ProLogic times.
Do I also have a 6.1/7.1 playback for a 5.1 recording?
Usually, all 6.1/7.1 AV Receivers can generate a 6.1/7.1 playback from a 5.1 recording. The procedure is comparable with the Dolby Pro Logic Decoder, which generates a matrix circuit from the stereo signal of a centre channel.

The AV Receivers thus generate a rear centre channel from the rear R/L channels of a 5.1 recording through the matrix circuit. The stronger the rear R/L effects on the DVD, the stronger the signal from the rear centre.
Can I connect the LT 4 directly to a DVD player or PC?
No.

The LT 4 is a partially active system that requires AV receiver operation. It has a built-in amplifier that only supplies bass tones in the subwoofer housing That is why an "AV Receiver", i.e. a combination of radio receiver and multichannel amplifier, is essential for using the LT 4.

The subwoofer is connected from the Line In R input to the AV receiver's sub out jack using a mono RCA cable, while the three front satellites are connected to the three speaker outputs of the AV Receiver using the speaker cable and are supplied with power from there.

Connect signal-emitting source appliances such as DVD player or PC etc. directly to the corresponding input jacks on the AV Receiver.
When would it be worth upgrading my 5.1 system to 6.1/7.1 sound?
Naturally 5.1 channel systems that play back all of the sound tracks contained on the DVDs already offer an excellent home cinema experience.

For the new 6.1 or 7.1 sound formats, a rear centre channel is controlled in addition to these channels. This channel, coded in the stereo effect channels, enables the better positioning of effects and music signals directly behind where you are sitting.

If using two speakers for the rear centre channel, the optimal seating position is not tailored to an individually specified position, i.e. you don't have to be seated in the exact centre.

In the following cases we would recommend upgrading to a 6.1 or 7.1 system:

• Your sitting position is not always dead centre, or you often have several viewers

• You have had a 5.1 system for a very long time and would like an improvement

• Your AV amplifier/receiver is designed as a 6.1 or 7.1 receiver and offers the corresponding connection possibilities

• You can also set up one and/or two rear centres. If you are currently building/renovating your house or flat, we would recommend you lay the cables for the additional rear centre channels in any case.

• Modern BluRay players usually issue a true 7.1 surround sound signal at all digital outputs and are thus optimally suitable - presuming the relevant AV Receiver - as a signal transmitter for a 7.1 channel home cinema system.
How do I upgrade my system to a 6.1 or 7.1 sound format?
The choice of speaker(s) depends on the AV Receiver/amplifier. This has an additional power amplifier for one rear centre (6.1) or its two (7.1). You can easily see this by the wattage (e.g. 6 x 100 watt or 7 x 100 watt). To the existing (side) rear speakers for right/left (5.1 technology), one or two additional rear centres are utilised in addition (6.1 or 7.1 technology).

• My AV amplifier/receiver has six connections/power amplifiers (6.1):

In this case we recommend connecting the same centre at the rear that you also used in the front area.

• My AV amplifier/receiver has 7 connections/power amplifiers (7.1):

If you already use dipoles or direct emitters for your 5.1 system, then you have a choice of either supplementing two more dipoles or two direct emitters. For wall assembly and a short distance from the seating location to the rear wall (less than 1.00 metres), we would recommend dipoles. As soon as you want to set up the speakers on bases or on a shelf, then direct emitters would be the better choice.

Information:
Even if the AV Receiver/amplifier only has the connection and power amplifier performance for one rear centre, it is still possible to connect two instead of just one speaker through series connection.

Exception:
• The AV amplifier/receiver has seven connections/power amplifiers, but I can only set up one rear centre. As the 7.1 AV amplifiers/receiver also offer the option of operating just one of the two outputs (usually can be set in the speaker set-up!), you can also only connect just one rear centre.

Here we recommend connecting the same centre to the rear that you also used in the front area. For short distances to the listening location (less than 1.00 metres), a dipole would be the better choice - especially if you are also using dipoles at the sides.
Is it a problem if the speakers are at different distances to where you are sitting?
Since the distance and volume of every individual speaker can be adjusted for the digital home cinema receivers, asymmetrical set-ups can be easily compensated. 
How do I equalise my home cinema system with the help of a sound level meter?
Take the level meter with you to the listening position and point the measuring device directly towards the front centre speaker. Now start the sound generator of the receiver (or of the sound card or DVD player) and equalise all speakers in succession to the same level.

The position and alignment of the measuring device should not be changed during this procedure. For a Teufel sound level meter, proceed as detailed in the following:

1. Remove the protective tab from the battery.

2. Set the weighting to "A" - only the "A" position considers the full frequency range during measuring!

3. Set the response to Slow.

4. Set the Range to 70.

5. Start the test noise from your AV device.

6. Change the volume for every individual channel at the AV device so that the level meter shows 75 dB (meaning between +4 and +6).

7. Done!
What is the difference between the 5.1 and 7.1 configuration?
Compared with the 5.1 set, the 7.1 set has two extra speakers for the back rear centre channel.

The 5.1 channel set plays back all sound tracks on DVDs/Blu-rays and creates an excellent home cinema experience.

With the 7.1 sound format, a rear centre channel is also generated in addition to these channels and distributed to two further speakers (the "rear centre"). This channel, which is encoded in the stereo effects channels, allows better location of effects and music signals directly behind the sitting position.

If you use two speakers for the rear centre channel (i.e. installed 7.1 set), the optimum sitting position is not restricted to one specific place, so you don't have to be sitting exactly in the middle and several listeners can enjoy the best sound.
Where is the optimal place for the centre of my Lautsprecher Teufel Surround System in a 5.1/6.1/7.1 configuration?
Because the centre plays back spoken dialogue, this speaker must be positioned as centrally as possible under or over the TV/monitor or the screen.

If the centre is placed outside the area of 40 centimetres to 1.20 meter height, it should be slightly inclined or angled towards the listener.


Do I need the same cable length for all speakers?
In our experience, there is no acoustical difference for different cable lengths for lengths up to 15 metres.
The RAMPA insert at the bottom of the speaker sometimes is turned out with the tamping screw. What can I do about that?
Unscrew the tamping screw from the Rampa insert and screw the Rampa insert back into the bottom of the speaker.
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